and that's one of the troubles in america in corporations today. you have a lot of ceos that boards do not hold accountable. they shouldn't be there. they're not bad people. they just, like having a football player that shouldn't be on the football team anymore. liz: okay. >> that's what you have to have here. hey, look, if i don't get it, i've done, i think i've done a good job for shareholders because we at least got the price somewhat. did better than the board. they kept saying wouldn't get it up. look they're up $800 million. so we have accomplished something but if we get it, i think we'll be accomplishing a lot more for those shareholders that wish to remain. liz: well, you've done a lot for shareholders of herbalife. you've got a 16.5% stake there. carl, there is word on the street you would even consider a tender offer, outright buying the whole company. are you considering buying herbalife? >> i can't comment on that. that, you know, liz, there is no way. liz: i can ask. >> you can ask all you want but you can't get a comment for me. liz: